3 Browsers, One enemy

I've just Google'd the name of my article and realized how famous it is.
It was even mentioned in Arabic and Japanese sites according to Google.

Thanks for everyone for spreading my idea of the 3 Browsers and the one Enemy and making it have a great and successful influence on the Web. :)

-LIJI of the Neatwares Network and Neatwares Studio

I started to use IE as it is standard in the windows package. After a while I got Opera to check the compatibility of my website with other browsers and was surprised by the easyness and extra features of Opera. As third party came Mozilla Firefox, to cross-check how my site would look in a browser that gained popularity very rapidly. In no time it became my standard browser, mainly because of its near-correct handling of what is agreed by the W3C.

And that's  what really counts. No browser should be allowed to roam the WWW unless it follows the guidelines set out. Not even Firefox, their makers and site-makers are 100% errorproof, but it's not far off. (for example : below this box I type in, "Formatting Guidelines" allow <b> and <i> where those should preferably be formatted using the "style" element...)

 I cannot agree with the phrasing used in "3 browsers, one enemy". It's so hateful. If you don't like IE, don't use it, that's IMO the best way to show Microsoft that their product sucks. What really has to be countered is the monopoly Microsoft has and their unwillingness to comply with rules set by a third party. Microsoft may not be allowed to rule the (www-)world.

cool

Hi all,

Me and my friends run a website called gurugeeks.net and the main focus of this website is to create awareness towards Web Standards... And as a part of verbal campaigns we have run in certain events in India, we're seeing people understand the requirement and importance of web standards and we have seen certain schools adopt firefox and opera in order to teach proper web coding practices to students.

I think this is a wonderful move towards proper web standards...  And as far as the war goes, I'm with Opera on the Anti-Trust war it has started against IE.

Chao...

The Cruise is on....

I have actually just wrote an article, if you would like to check it out

http://wiredamp.com/?p=20

I agree completely!  Read my suggestion for helping grow the Firefox userbase.

 node/28806
 

Cheers

For real...

 
But do you think that the developers of IE are copying the coding of Firefox even though it is illegal?

STAY AWAY FROM IE PERIOD!  IE is tied in with the OS!

Here is some truth I want to share to everyone reading this, look down at your toolbars (down where the start button is) and if you  have "Quick Launch" toolbar there, and many do, this bar is part of internet explorer.  God knows what Microsoft has been doing with any information (even if it's just to see what people use, and this would be a good way to do it and I believe they have).  Think about this!

Uninstalling IE from any windows os doesn't entirely uninstall it.  I still use the quick launch, but maybe I should do away with it.

Another thing you will notice is that many of the online anti virus scanners will only let you scan using IE!  What the hell is this all about.  You can visit my page on this at http://nicemachines.com/maintenance/

 I haven't tried it lately, but the last time earlier this year I tried to use these online scans, same thing, you needed IE.  Guess what.  In the beginning of this year I uninstalled IE using the control panel (even though I know it didn't really get rid of all IE) and just used the other browsers mentioned here and I even turned off my firewall for the hell of it and guess what?  I haven't had any trouble whatsoever!  I do run a program that empties some folders I choose every once and awhile (temp, cookie, prefetch  folders)  NO PROBLEMS!

My evaluation of the whole mess with anti virus and spyware was all done with IE!  STAY AWAY FROM IE!

Contact info on my site.

As Always;
B. Dean De Witt, Jr.

Thank you for this comment. Please share this mentality and action with anyone who cares. It is sooooooooooo true.  I am putting it in my blog.
Thanks.

I use deploy Firefox 2.0.0.9 at work on Windows Server 2003 X64 EE so that the code slingers can test locally, because IE7 is locked down so tight that it is unusable.

 go Figure.
 

 I Think you are all right!!!

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Since the first time I know Internet, I always use either opeara or Firefox.

I never use IE since it is weak in features. It doesn't look pretty.

Even in newest version, I never impressed with IE 

I love Firefox Ever Since The WMP Plugin Was Created

I've Been Using Firefox Since The 1.0 Pre Release

I love It since IE Did'nt Work  half The Time

Firefox Became My #1 browser When I was using The Old windows 98 SE

Now I have windows Vista Home Basic

And Firefox Is Still My Number One Browser

I prefer to Stay Away From IE7 

Will Windows Vista you need IE whatsoever. You use Windows Update. I have used Firefox for 4 years and working personal IT support i recommend it to every one. But when they ask me a about any other browser I say "anything but Internet Explorer".  Saying all this any browser is better than IE.

 Used Firefox forever love it and i have never had any reason to use anything else

ive used IE before everybody has i would think and it's bad really bad

A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. -- Bertrand Russell

Would this mentality be why Mozilla is now offering Wiis as a prize for putting up giant Firefox stickers? Wii uses a stripped down version of Opera, you know.

In fact, that's the exact philosophy behind my site, The Alternative Browser Alliance. Every Firefox vs. Opera flamewar is another win for Internet Explorer.

    I will be honest about opera and firefox.  I notice a slight speed difference with opera being faster than firefox.  However, opera base is even smaller than firefox thus its add ons and customizing are extremely limited; so I use Firefox a majority of the time because I love the add ons and customization.  I also find firefox more user friendly with automatic updates and so on.

    However, I use Opera when I look at "educational" material because some of those sites outside of the US for some reason block firefox access, allowing anything but Firefox to view.  IE is out of the question especially for those site, so opera with good security is a must for those situations.  So yeah...........I said it.  I said I was going to honest.

    Why is there even a rivalry between those two browser?  I find them both exceptional with Firefox being my personal favorite.

What make me really dislike IE is the bad experiences I have while designing web sites.  I could forgive it for not supporting everything I would like it to, and then having all its own formats.  But what I do have a problem with is all the unexpected things that it does for seemingly no reason.  I have wasted so much time trying to patch a page to work with IE.

 It is the lowest common factor problem, and IE really does bring that down.
 

Opera, Safari, and the other so-called "alternative" browsers are certainly not our enemy. Anyone who uses a non-IE browser helps keep the web open and free. It encourages websites to be made for all browsers, it encourages the use of standards.

Otto

I never say opera, firefox, safari or ie is too bad to do anything

I always say every browser has its advantage...

That is more objective.

--synyan[at]hotmail.com

I just noticed it's in the top of the "Top Posts" list. :)

It seems that I wrote a very nice article! :D

I have downloaded Firefox 2.0 and it is a relief to use it. More definitely needs to be done to spread the word about this fabulous opensource browser. I do have IE7 as my backup but that is because when downloading updates from Microsoft using Firefox is gave me some error message. Well now thats all changed due to the IE tab plugin. It seems to be working great. Once I know that I can use Firefox without restrictions I will remove IE7 from the pc.  Ps, Keep up the good work guys.

I'm (currently) using Opera as a primary browser and a backup, and Firefox for "Stumbling" (with StumbleUpon, the extension that got me Firefox in the first place). Of course, if I happen to use Firefox, I'll stick with it until it closes, then go right back to using Opera. My usage habits are very weird.

Personally, I have used every one of these browsers and they all have some benefits but like the rest of you my favorite is Firefox. The amount of customization and support available is just overwhelming. Not to mention I can take my Firefox with me thanks to Portable Firefox, so I can use it anywhere at any time off my USB drive. But if someone said I like Opera, or Safari I wouldn't have a problem with that. But to all those IE user's it's always going to be "Why do you still use IE, there are so many better choices out there whether it be Firefox, Opera, or Safari".

I use Firefox and Opera. But Firefox is my primary browser, and Opera as my back up. And that everytime I use them together. So, there must be no problems between Firefox and Opera!

"I prefer to say NO to IE!"

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And true!

Firefox is my primary, Opera is my backup. I love them both in their own way but Firefox is my prefered. Like a litter of really cute kittens, they're all gorgeous but there is always that one you just bond with.

I am not really keen on safari, but if someone says they use it, I don't feel any angst.

It is, when someone says "I use IE" most (if not all of us) cannot help that Sid Vicious sneer or that slapped with a wet fish look.

I remember in the beginning, I was speaking to my new tattooist (also a tech head) about it and asked which was better, IE or Fx, you should have seen the look of his face! A look of horror shot across it "Don't use that, don't do anything to it, just hide it away and forget about it and use Firefox".

Quite and for those who come and read here (not mentioning any names as I don't flame, unlike them) then either misquote OR use quotes on their site from some of us angry ex-IE users (who have lost time, money and maybe our mind because of that terrible, rubbish, *other words* browser) we are glad to have found a free and much more exquisite / superior browser than the peice of garbage we used before. So if I want to swing my Mozilla tamborine... I will!

The only browser I ever bash is IE. 

When talking about browsers I generally focus on Firefox otherwise I may confuse the person I am talking to. Some people have a hard enough time grasping what a web browser is more or less that there might be another, better, one.  

I'll gladly mention Opera or Safari if they are interested or if one cases where another might be better. Safari can sometimes be better for Mac users, and Opera is sometimes better on old slow computers (I'm not talking about the new slow Vista ones)  

Let's say there was another fable by Aesop called "The Tortoise and the Two Hares." The hares (In this case, Firefox, Opera, Safari, etc.) challenge the tortoise (IE) to a race, but during the race itself, the hares instead dare each other to do other things, such as jumping over a rock, or climbing a hill. All this time, the tortoise just plods on, and finally wins the race.

hello LIJI.

Its a great post.I would love to give u 5 on 5.